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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Parallel Economy? |
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"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:45:01 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
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"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
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"Maria" <info@tajarts.co.uk> wrote in message
news:70a3b803-21f7-4d42-aa7c-14a4eded3dcc@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
What's going on? All over the news is bad news about jobs lost, credit
squeeze, rising household bills, and yet we are doing better business
than ever (and higher order value).
I can understand the high street being packed (as it has been for the
past few weeks) as nearly every shop has a half-price sale, but other
than that, I don't get it.
An insufficient time period. Some people have been talking about a
rather
painful unfolding of debt for a good few years now, and it's taken that
long
to even get this far.
With the large quantity of credit cards and other easy-access debt
devices
still in wide circulation, it's going to be a while before most of us
who
are in for a roasting, realise we haven't really got any money any more.
There's also the state of denial in these situations whereby people
continue
to worsen their financial position because expectation of a certain
lifestyle has developed in to a feeling of absolute entitlement, which
they
simply no longer have the financial capacity to maintain
Overnight market crashes rarely cause lasting problems.. it's the slow
ones
which persist in unwinding regardless of what's thrown at them.. they're
the
ones to watch
name one scenario beside resource shortages that has any
realistic chance of stopping the good times roll....
and explain exactly what logical links lead from your assumptions
to your conclusions...
What an utterly preposterous demand, why on Earth would I want to do any
of
that?
you have made a slew of vague claims....
clearly from your response you don't have the faintest idea
of what you are talking about...and have no ability to backup
or formalise your waffling
of course i can't claim to be surprised....in fact i expected it....
but i just hoped forlornly that you had some substance to offer
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Then why didn't you request some, rather then petulantly stamping out a list
of demands like a 5 year old?
I tend to be pretty open to discussing my thoughts on most subjects with
most people. But when an opening gambit amounts to little more than a ream
of demands stating what must be said and how it must be structured.. well ..
by all means hope away.
I don't what your success rate is in attempting to engage people in
conversation in this uneccessarily confrontational manner, but I would say
if you're trying to raise a discussion from anyone with any savvy, 'hope' is
about all you're likely to get baby..
Speaking of which, on that note..... |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: Re: Parallel Economy? |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:22:54 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
<nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
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"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:45:01 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"Maria" <info@tajarts.co.uk> wrote in message
news:70a3b803-21f7-4d42-aa7c-14a4eded3dcc@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
What's going on? All over the news is bad news about jobs lost, credit
squeeze, rising household bills, and yet we are doing better business
than ever (and higher order value).
I can understand the high street being packed (as it has been for the
past few weeks) as nearly every shop has a half-price sale, but other
than that, I don't get it.
An insufficient time period. Some people have been talking about a
rather
painful unfolding of debt for a good few years now, and it's taken that
long
to even get this far.
With the large quantity of credit cards and other easy-access debt
devices
still in wide circulation, it's going to be a while before most of us
who
are in for a roasting, realise we haven't really got any money any more.
There's also the state of denial in these situations whereby people
continue
to worsen their financial position because expectation of a certain
lifestyle has developed in to a feeling of absolute entitlement, which
they
simply no longer have the financial capacity to maintain
Overnight market crashes rarely cause lasting problems.. it's the slow
ones
which persist in unwinding regardless of what's thrown at them.. they're
the
ones to watch
name one scenario beside resource shortages that has any
realistic chance of stopping the good times roll....
and explain exactly what logical links lead from your assumptions
to your conclusions...
What an utterly preposterous demand, why on Earth would I want to do any
of
that?
you have made a slew of vague claims....
clearly from your response you don't have the faintest idea
of what you are talking about...and have no ability to backup
or formalise your waffling
of course i can't claim to be surprised....in fact i expected it....
but i just hoped forlornly that you had some substance to offer
Then why didn't you request some, rather then petulantly stamping out a list
of demands like a 5 year old?
I tend to be pretty open to discussing my thoughts on most subjects with
most people. But when an opening gambit amounts to little more than a ream
of demands stating what must be said and how it must be structured.. well ..
by all means hope away.
I don't what your success rate is in attempting to engage people in
conversation in this uneccessarily confrontational manner, but I would say
if you're trying to raise a discussion from anyone with any savvy, 'hope' is
about all you're likely to get baby..
Speaking of which, on that note.....
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i note that you have evaded....again
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Parallel Economy? |
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<70a3b803-21f7-4d42-aa7c-14a4eded3dcc@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Maria <info@tajarts.co.uk> writes
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What's going on? All over the news is bad news about jobs lost, credit
squeeze, rising household bills, and yet we are doing better business
than ever (and higher order value).
I can understand the high street being packed (as it has been for the
past few weeks) as nearly every shop has a half-price sale, but other
than that, I don't get it.
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People will spend when inflation is rising because they know their money
is declining in value. RH
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Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/ blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Parallel Economy? |
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"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:22:54 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:45:01 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
news:mqtp74hh0vlick36832umfh6svq5jrvfuk@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"Maria" <info@tajarts.co.uk> wrote in message
news:70a3b803-21f7-4d42-aa7c-14a4eded3dcc@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
What's going on? All over the news is bad news about jobs lost,
credit
squeeze, rising household bills, and yet we are doing better
business
than ever (and higher order value).
I can understand the high street being packed (as it has been for
the
past few weeks) as nearly every shop has a half-price sale, but
other
than that, I don't get it.
An insufficient time period. Some people have been talking about a
rather
painful unfolding of debt for a good few years now, and it's taken
that
long
to even get this far.
With the large quantity of credit cards and other easy-access debt
devices
still in wide circulation, it's going to be a while before most of us
who
are in for a roasting, realise we haven't really got any money any
more.
There's also the state of denial in these situations whereby people
continue
to worsen their financial position because expectation of a certain
lifestyle has developed in to a feeling of absolute entitlement, which
they
simply no longer have the financial capacity to maintain
Overnight market crashes rarely cause lasting problems.. it's the slow
ones
which persist in unwinding regardless of what's thrown at them..
they're
the
ones to watch
name one scenario beside resource shortages that has any
realistic chance of stopping the good times roll....
and explain exactly what logical links lead from your assumptions
to your conclusions...
What an utterly preposterous demand, why on Earth would I want to do any
of
that?
you have made a slew of vague claims....
clearly from your response you don't have the faintest idea
of what you are talking about...and have no ability to backup
or formalise your waffling
of course i can't claim to be surprised....in fact i expected it....
but i just hoped forlornly that you had some substance to offer
Then why didn't you request some, rather then petulantly stamping out a
list
of demands like a 5 year old?
I tend to be pretty open to discussing my thoughts on most subjects with
most people. But when an opening gambit amounts to little more than a ream
of demands stating what must be said and how it must be structured.. well
..
by all means hope away.
I don't what your success rate is in attempting to engage people in
conversation in this uneccessarily confrontational manner, but I would say
if you're trying to raise a discussion from anyone with any savvy, 'hope'
is
about all you're likely to get baby..
Speaking of which, on that note.....
i note that you have evaded....again
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Why the continued expectation that I'm going to acquiesce to your demands
when I've already made it clear that I see no reason to do so?
If you disagree with any points made then debate them, but don't put up
demands that I reword the entire discussion to favour a structure you
approve of.. You want to do that, start another thread |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Parallel Economy? |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:03:38 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
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"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:22:54 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:45:01 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message
news:mqtp74hh0vlick36832umfh6svq5jrvfuk@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
"Maria" <info@tajarts.co.uk> wrote in message
news:70a3b803-21f7-4d42-aa7c-14a4eded3dcc@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
What's going on? All over the news is bad news about jobs lost,
credit
squeeze, rising household bills, and yet we are doing better
business
than ever (and higher order value).
I can understand the high street being packed (as it has been for
the
past few weeks) as nearly every shop has a half-price sale, but
other
than that, I don't get it.
An insufficient time period. Some people have been talking about a
rather
painful unfolding of debt for a good few years now, and it's taken
that
long
to even get this far.
With the large quantity of credit cards and other easy-access debt
devices
still in wide circulation, it's going to be a while before most of us
who
are in for a roasting, realise we haven't really got any money any
more.
There's also the state of denial in these situations whereby people
continue
to worsen their financial position because expectation of a certain
lifestyle has developed in to a feeling of absolute entitlement, which
they
simply no longer have the financial capacity to maintain
Overnight market crashes rarely cause lasting problems.. it's the slow
ones
which persist in unwinding regardless of what's thrown at them..
they're
the
ones to watch
name one scenario beside resource shortages that has any
realistic chance of stopping the good times roll....
and explain exactly what logical links lead from your assumptions
to your conclusions...
What an utterly preposterous demand, why on Earth would I want to do any
of
that?
you have made a slew of vague claims....
clearly from your response you don't have the faintest idea
of what you are talking about...and have no ability to backup
or formalise your waffling
of course i can't claim to be surprised....in fact i expected it....
but i just hoped forlornly that you had some substance to offer
Then why didn't you request some, rather then petulantly stamping out a
list
of demands like a 5 year old?
I tend to be pretty open to discussing my thoughts on most subjects with
most people. But when an opening gambit amounts to little more than a ream
of demands stating what must be said and how it must be structured.. well
..
by all means hope away.
I don't what your success rate is in attempting to engage people in
conversation in this uneccessarily confrontational manner, but I would say
if you're trying to raise a discussion from anyone with any savvy, 'hope'
is
about all you're likely to get baby..
Speaking of which, on that note.....
i note that you have evaded....again
Why the continued expectation that I'm going to acquiesce to your demands
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1)not a demand
2)what i expect is that you evade
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when I've already made it clear that I see no reason to do so?
If you disagree with any points made then debate them, but don't put up
demands that I reword the entire discussion to favour a structure you
approve of.. You want to do that, start another thread
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--
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics
energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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