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A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else. We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead a
peaceful march of millions through it.
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NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
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Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public
debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson |
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A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace.
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No. The peace movement has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
<Snip> The rest. |
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else. We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead a
peaceful march of millions through it.
At this point in time, Bush has about six months before he leaves
office. What could possibly be gained by initiating impeachment proceedings?
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It's a way of criminalizing resistance to terrorism. |
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A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal
attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else. We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus
on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in
the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or
occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for
that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone
who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead
a
peaceful march of millions through it.
--
NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material
available to advance understanding of
political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues.
I
believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public
debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are
at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson
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"Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for
ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority
in
Washington, D.C., has been ending the funding of the
occupation.
That work is over for the next year, because Congress has
provided
that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still
educate, we can
still agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But
one of our
secondary priorities in Washington has been imposing a
penalty for
the illegal attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or
anywhere
else. We have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with
our main
lobbying focus on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for
another
year, the possibility of impeachment is beginning to
spark. After
over two years of declaring impeachment "off the table,"
House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has relented and suggested that some
sort of
preliminary hearing be held in the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable
offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one
war or
occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything
we've got
for that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We
should ask
everyone who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman
John
Conyers, as well as their own representatives, whom they
should ask
to introduce their own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and
the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that
door fully and
lead a
peaceful march of millions through it.
--
NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use
of which has
not always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am
making such
material available to advance understanding of
political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and
social justice
issues. I
believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted
material as
provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches
pass over,
their spells dissolve, and the people recovering their
true sight,
restore their government to its true principles. It is
true that in
the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions
of enormous
public debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us
at home we
must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall
have an
opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost,
for this is
a game where principles are at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson
Note to the peace movement: what are you doing to stop Al
Quaeda?
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Getting U.S. troops out of Iraq is the first step toward
stopping al Qaeda. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: A Note to the Peace Movement |
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
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A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else. We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead a
peaceful march of millions through it.
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At this point in time, Bush has about six months before he leaves
office. What could possibly be gained by initiating impeachment proceedings?
Given that the President has done nothing for which he should be
impeached, such proceedings would only hurt the Democrats, and would not
lessen by one day, the term of the President. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: A Note to the Peace Movement |
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Taylor wrote:
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"Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:487b7a82$1$25602$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal
attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else. We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus
on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in
the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or
occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for
that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone
who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead
a
peaceful march of millions through it.
--
NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material
available to advance understanding of
political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues.
I
believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public
debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are
at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson
Note to the peace movement: what are you doing to stop Al Quaeda?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: A Note to the Peace Movement |
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David Hartung wrote:
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for
ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority
in
Washington, D.C., has been ending the funding of the
occupation.
That work is over for the next year, because Congress has
provided
that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still
educate, we can
still agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But
one of our
secondary priorities in Washington has been imposing a
penalty for
the illegal attack on Iraq in order to discourage future
attacks on
Iran or anywhere else. We have pushed half-heartedly for
impeachment, with our main lobbying focus on cutting off
the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for
another
year, the possibility of impeachment is beginning to
spark. After
over two years of declaring impeachment "off the table,"
House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has relented and suggested that some
sort of
preliminary hearing be held in the Judiciary Committee -
and
specifically on the impeachable offense of misleading a
nation into
war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one
war or
occupation, but a movement for peace, we should push with
everything
we've got for that hearing to happen, happen soon, and
happen well.
We should ask everyone who cares about peace to phone
Pelosi and
Committee Chairman John Conyers, as well as their own
representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own
articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and
the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that
door fully and
lead a peaceful march of millions through it.
At this point in time, Bush has about six months before he
leaves
office. What could possibly be gained by initiating
impeachment
proceedings?
Given that the President has done nothing for which he
should be
impeached, such proceedings would only hurt the Democrats,
and would
not lessen by one day, the term of the President.
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....other than lying to Congress and committing 30 different
wiretap felonies.
thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/
Turley: It’s ‘A Very Inconvenient Fact Right Now’ To Say
Bush Committed A Felony With His Wiretapping Program»
Last night on MSNBC’s Coundown, George Washington law
professor Jonathan Turley noted that just this week, a
federal judge rejected President Bush’s claim that his
“constitutional authority as commander in chief trumped” the
FISA wiretapping law. Judge Vaughn Walker explicitly stated
that the President is bound by FISA:
Congress appears clearly to have intended to — and did —
establish the exclusive means for foreign intelligence
activities to be conducted. Whatever power the executive may
otherwise have had in this regard, FISA limits the power of
the executive branch to conduct such activities and it
limits the executive branch’s authority to assert the state
secrets privilege in response to challenges to the legality
of its foreign intelligence surveillance activities.
In other words, when Bush contravened the FISA law by
authorizing warrantless wiretaps through the National
Security Agency, he broke the law. Turley said last night
that this is an “inconvenient fact” for many in Congress to
admit:
Nobody wants to have a confrontation over the fact that
the President committed a felony – not one, but at least 30
times. That’s a very inconvenient fact right now in
Washington. |
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"Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over
for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal
attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else.
We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus
on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in
the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or
occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for
that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone
who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce
their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead
a
peaceful march of millions through it.
--
NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material
available to advance understanding of
political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice
issues. I
believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore
their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we
are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous
public
debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of
winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are
at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson
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Note to the GOP: what have you done to stop Al Quaida?
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Taylor wrote:
"Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:487b7a82$1$25602$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over
for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can
still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal
attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else.
We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus
on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year,
the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years
of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in
the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or
occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for
that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone
who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers,
as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce
their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and
lead a
peaceful march of millions through it.
--
NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material
available to advance understanding of
political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice
issues. I
believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore
their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we
are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous
public
debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of
winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles
are at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson
Note to the peace movement: what are you doing to stop Al Quaeda?
Answer, nothing.
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over
for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal
attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else.
We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus
on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in
the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or
occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for
that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone
who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce
their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead
a
peaceful march of millions through it.
At this point in time, Bush has about six months before he leaves office.
What could possibly be gained by initiating impeachment proceedings?
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Demonstrating that in America we actually honor the Constitution and don't
think that it's...as Bush has called it...nothing but a goddamned piece of
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Gandalf Grey
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: Re: A Note to the Peace Movement |
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"Jim Austin" <bja@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 9:39 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace.
No. The peace movement has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
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Actually, the GOP has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
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#1 Donkey
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: Re: A Note to the Peace Movement |
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On Jul 14, 11:59 am, David Hartung <d_hart...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace. Our top priority in Washington,
D.C., has been ending the funding of the occupation. That work is over for
the next year, because Congress has provided that funding.
We can still work against recruitment, we can still educate, we can still
agitate, we can still oppose an attack on Iran. But one of our secondary
priorities in Washington has been imposing a penalty for the illegal attack
on Iraq in order to discourage future attacks on Iran or anywhere else. We
have pushed half-heartedly for impeachment, with our main lobbying focus on
cutting off the money.
Now, at the same time that the money is a done deal for another year, the
possibility of impeachment is beginning to spark. After over two years of
declaring impeachment "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has
relented and suggested that some sort of preliminary hearing be held in the
Judiciary Committee - and specifically on the impeachable offense of
misleading a nation into war.
If the peace movement is not just a movement against one war or occupation,
but a movement for peace, we should push with everything we've got for that
hearing to happen, happen soon, and happen well. We should ask everyone who
cares about peace to phone Pelosi and Committee Chairman John Conyers, as
well as their own representatives, whom they should ask to introduce their
own articles of impeachment.
We've been on a losing streak, brothers and sisters, and the door is
cracking open toward a major victory. Let's open that door fully and lead a
peaceful march of millions through it.
At this point in time, Bush has about six months before he leaves
office. What could possibly be gained by initiating impeachment proceedings?
Given that the President has done nothing for which he should be
impeached, such proceedings would only hurt the Democrats, and would not
lessen by one day, the term of the President.- Hide quoted text -
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Bush would not be able to pardon anyone while he is under
impeachment. Then the whole gang could be tried except for Libby. He
has been pardoned. |
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David Hartung
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
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"Jim Austin" <bja@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 9:39 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace.
No. The peace movement has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
Actually, the GOP has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
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Jim Austin
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: Re: A Note to the Peace Movement |
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On Jul 14, 12:56 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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"Jim Austin" <b...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:da6ef1ee-7a3d-45dd-b966-8ace0d5ceab8@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 14, 9:39 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
A Note to the Peace Movement
By David Swanson
Created Jul 13 2008 - 10:58am
The peace movement has stood for peace and justice, for ending wars,
preventing new ones, and building peace.
No. The peace movement has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
Actually, the GOP has stood for dictatorship and terrorism.
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In the 1960s, the peace movement sided with the communist countries
against the United States. Communism has caused move pain, misery,
suffering and deaths than any ideology since the stone age, but peace
movement partisans were always on hand to rationalize, minimize,
sanitize communist countries.
The peace movement demanded that America unilaterally disarm while
Soviets accelerated their military buildup.
Now, the peace movement opposes anything that would inconvenience
terrorism. Peace movement activists rationalize, minimize, sanitize
terrorists.
> > <Snip> The rest. |
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