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The Wanderer
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:08:24 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
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In message <6dvcsgF4hnolU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Walker
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Alasdair wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT), Logician
sales@logicians.com> wrote:
I did try a few weeks ago, and the DVLA said the data was protected.
That does surprise me. Ever since registration numbers were
introduced in 1903, it was possible to obtain the name of the
registered keeper on payment of a fee and having a good reason for
wanting the info.
I believe private car parks use this service a lot to chase up drivers
who park and don't pay.
Personally, I think all this information should be available online
for all to see for free.
I agree - as a professional burglar I'd only need to check the airport's
longstay carpark and I would have everything I needed for an easy job.
Why not make it REALLY easy by requiring the owner's name and address to
be included on the number plates?
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But the owner isn't necessarily the keeper of the car........
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Ian Jackson
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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In message <18wrrtn8kge1i$.9hkkxoo9l5n8.dlg@40tude.net>, The Wanderer
<wanderer@gmx.co.uk> writes
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:08:24 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <6dvcsgF4hnolU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Walker
spam-trap@beeb.net> writes
Alasdair wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT), Logician
sales@logicians.com> wrote:
I did try a few weeks ago, and the DVLA said the data was protected.
That does surprise me. Ever since registration numbers were
introduced in 1903, it was possible to obtain the name of the
registered keeper on payment of a fee and having a good reason for
wanting the info.
I believe private car parks use this service a lot to chase up drivers
who park and don't pay.
Personally, I think all this information should be available online
for all to see for free.
I agree - as a professional burglar I'd only need to check the airport's
longstay carpark and I would have everything I needed for an easy job.
Why not make it REALLY easy by requiring the owner's name and address to
be included on the number plates?
But the owner isn't necessarily the keeper of the car........
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OK, RK then. Or both. And their DoB. Whatever makes it easier for the
burglar. Jeez.......
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Ian. |
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Mad Cliffy's Legs Don't W
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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On Jul 14, 11:54 am, Logician <sa...@logicians.com> wrote:
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On Jul 13, 11:11 pm, "Steve Walker" <spam-t...@beeb.net> wrote:
Alasdair wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT), Logician
sa...@logicians.com> wrote:
I did try a few weeks ago, and the DVLA said the data was protected.
That does surprise me. Ever since registration numbers were
introduced in 1903, it was possible to obtain the name of the
registered keeper on payment of a fee and having a good reason for
wanting the info.
I believe private car parks use this service a lot to chase up drivers
who park and don't pay.
Personally, I think all this information should be available online
for all to see for free.
I agree - as a professional burglar I'd only need to check the airport's
longstay carpark and I would have everything I needed for an easy job.- Hide quoted text -
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Got a link finally:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/AdviceOnKeepingYo...
for applying for the information.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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And as I suggested earlier, just pay the fee and they'll release the
info.
Yeah, sure, they make a big thing about "having reasonable cause" and
then state one of the reasons they'll cheerfully release info is
"minor hit and run incidents – to help trace keepers of vehicles
involved in minor hit and run incidents not warranting a full police
investigation."
So no police involvement, you just tell DVLA vehicle xyz bumped you
and drove off and Bob's your Uncle. |
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Fred
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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Alasdair wrote:
s use this service a lot to chase up drivers
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who park and don't pay.
Personally, I think all this information should be available online
for all to see for free.
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Wouldn't there then be a danger of stalkers etc knowing the name and
address of who was visiting their beloved with possible risk of
blackmail or worse, and of course some curtain twitchers would have a
field day. |
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Logician
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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On Jul 15, 7:14 am, Fred <""Fred\"@Frednet,com"> wrote:
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Alasdair wrote:
s use this service a lot to chase up drivers
who park and don't pay.
Personally, I think all this information should be available online
for all to see for free.
Wouldn't there then be a danger of stalkers etc knowing the name and
address of who was visiting their beloved with possible risk of
blackmail or worse, and of course some curtain twitchers would have a
field day.
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We need Freedom of Information, full and absolute. |
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Chris Hills
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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Logician wrote:
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With crime rates increasing at record rates, is there a way to track
car numbers? For example, when a thug commits a crime and speeds away
with his numbers visible can residents actually find the person's
identity?
As a parallel, a private detective worked for me years ago and tracked
someone within just 30 minutes using computers and I gave him almost
no information (full name, date of birth and an address than was over
ten years old). He said it was all about "contacts." But he said it
was a little senstive getting this type of data.
Is there any agency to get car numbers identified?
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This information is no good if the car is stolen, unregistered, or
registered with false details. You are better off getting a physical
description of the perpetrator. Unfortunately I doubt Mr. Plod will be too
interested as they haven't managed to computerise facial/physical
recognition yet. |
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William Black
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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"Logician" <sales@logicians.com> wrote in message
news:260a81ec-4651-49d2-9dd4-1a8fd2dad40f@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
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On Jul 15, 7:14 am, Fred <""Fred\"@Frednet,com"> wrote:
Alasdair wrote:
s use this service a lot to chase up drivers
who park and don't pay.
Personally, I think all this information should be available online
for all to see for free.
Wouldn't there then be a danger of stalkers etc knowing the name and
address of who was visiting their beloved with possible risk of
blackmail or worse, and of course some curtain twitchers would have a
field day.
We need Freedom of Information, full and absolute.
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And airport longstay carparks would become a source of excellent information
for those who like to go a burgling...
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William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea. |
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count zero
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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Inteligent number plates with RF transmitters and tamper proof have
been made. Problem is people can buy party plates of net and clone
cars with them. |
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Janitor of Lunacy
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:49 am Post subject: Re: Tracing Car Numbers? |
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count zero wrote:
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Inteligent number plates with RF transmitters and tamper proof have
been made. Problem is people can buy party plates of net and clone
cars with them.
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What's a party plate? Are they the greaseproof cardboard disposable ones?
You know, the ones that come with spindly plastic knives forks & spoons? |
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