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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congressman Reply with quote

(UPDATE: Hyperlinks added, July 1, 2008. -rep)

Richard Gage, AIA
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Inc.
www.AE911Truth.org

July 1, 2008

Via Electronic Mail to: lisa.white@mail.house.gov

The Honorable Robert Wexler
2241 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Congressman Wexler:

My name is Richard Gage, AIA, a 20-year licensed practicing architect and member of the
American Institute of Architects. I am founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth,
Inc.(1), and I am asking for your help in a matter of grave importance to the United States of
America.

Just over a year ago, I heard on a radio program new facts and compelling arguments regarding
the terrible events at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. I was stunned. After
completing some investigation, I realized that we had not been told the truth about the events
of that day.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth was born and we began an online petition drive for fellow
architects and engineers who are also determined to learn and publicize what really happened to
the three World Trade Center Towers that collapsed on 9/11.

We developed a multimedia presentation(2) that exposes the myth of the official explanation
using simple, rational forensic inquiry and basic physics. I travel the country speaking to
building professionals and others to expose the fallacies. The response to this presentation is
the same everywhere I go. A simple show of hands before and after reveals that about 90% of
those who believe the "fire-weakened steel" hypothesis come to accept the "controlled
demolition with explosives" hypothesis after the presentation. The explanations of the
destruction of the iconic Twin Towers and WTC Building 7(3) offered by FEMA and NIST defy laws
of physics. This is easy to prove and has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The existing,
prevalent physical evidence shows that the explanations offered cannot be true. That such
serious inconsistencies remain unaddressed, and that additional questions remain unanswered –
even unasked – is untenable. We must pursue them now.

AE911Truth.org operates an increasingly popular website that receives more than a thousand
daily visits. We host over 2,000 petition signers(4), of whom more than 400 are
degreed/licensed architects and engineers. Our licensed A/E's have agreed to uphold a code of
ethics upon obtaining their licensure and they are meeting that obligation today by responding
with great courage to the myth that we know as 9/11.

They ask the following questions and document these observations, which are just a few of many
that remain unanswered or ignored by those who, at the behest ultimately of the White House,
directed the official investigations:

• Why did more than 100 FDNY first responders describe, in great detail, the sounds of
explosions and flashes of light that they saw and heard at the onset, and during, the collapse?
Why did we not know about these 10,000 pages of FDNY "oral history" evidence until August, 2005
– and only then after a court order for their release? FDNY's own Chief of Safety, Albert Turi,
and FDNY's nationally recognized Chief, Ray Downey, the "premiere collapse expert in the
country" according to a fellow chief, both spoke of the presence of explosives in the Towers
prior to their failures. More than 100 testimonies referring to multiple, violent explosions(5)
were ignored by the 9/11 Commission, NIST and FEMA.
• What was the energy source, and through what mechanism was it applied, that pulverized
400,000 cubic yards of concrete(6) into a fine powder that blanketed Manhattan? Calculations
show that the energy requirement for this was greater than the available gravitational
potential energy of the structures. Is this the same energy source that is responsible for the
complete obliteration of more than 1,100 human bodies that were never found?
• How were massive structural steel members hurled(7) from the Twin Towers at 70 mph – some of
them landing 600 feet away?
• Why were most windows within 400 feet of each tower blown out?(Cool
• Why were virtually no floors found at the base of either Twin Tower?(9) There were originally
110 floors – each of them one acre in size. What explains the disappearance of 220 acres of
four-inch thick concrete and steel decking?
• Why were there explosive ejections of dust & gases(10) (squibs) 20, 40 and 60 stories below
the rapidly descending "collapse" in each tower? These can be seen in many publicly available
videos and show rapidly ejecting pulverized building materials – over 200 feet a second.
• How did the elevated building mass destroy 80,000 tons of structural steel at near free-fall
speed(11), and with such radial symmetry?(12) Given the asymmetrical structural and fire damage
and the tendency of any disorder to grow over time (as described by the Second Law of
Thermodynamics), the falling building sections should have "rolled off" of the intact sections
below, resulting in only partial collapses.
• Given that open-air jet fuel fires and normal office fires both burn at a maximum of around
1,500° F., and the melting point of steel is around 2,700° F., what thermal energy source
produced the tons of molten metal observed flowing out of the South Tower(13) shortly before
its collapse – and also seen for weeks after 9/11/01 in the basements(14) of the Twin Towers
and Building 7 by numerous witnesses, including the WTC structural engineer, Leslie Robertson.
• What explains the chemical evidence of thermite(15), an incendiary material found on the ends
of steel beams? In Appendix C of its BPAT Report, FEMA documented that "evidence of a severe
high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with
subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure." This
is clearly not a feature of gravitational collapse, or jet fuel or office fires.
• What is the source of the billions of microspheres consisting of previously molten iron(17)
in all the pulverized concrete of the World Trade Center? The United States Geological Survey,
in its "Particle Atlas of World Trade Center Dust Report," and RJ Lee Group, Inc., in its
December 2003 WTC Dust Signature Report: Composition and Morphology, both document these
once-molten drops of metal without explanation. These microspheres also contain the chemical
signature of thermite, an incendiary material used to cut through steel like a hot knife
through butter.
• Why did Building 7 start its sudden and uniform collapse(1Cool at an acceleration rate nearly
that of a body in free fall? Video analysis shows the upper portion of the structure
accelerating at the maximum rate gravity allows. This can only mean that the structure below
offered no resistance. What mechanism can account for the simultaneous failure of the critical
number and distribution of columns required to produce this rate of acceleration? NIST now
attributes the catastrophic collapse of Building 7 to "normal office fires," with little to no
contribution from falling debris or diesel fuel. At this suggestion by NIST, are we to suddenly
accept that our understanding of fire science, materials and structural behavior has been
deeply flawed? The American Institute of Architects has steadfastly resisted changes to the
building codes after 9/11! Here is the potent 5-minute AE911Truth executive summary testimony
delivered to NIST(19) on Dec 18, 2007.

On behalf of the more than 2,000 petition signers at Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth –
and of the thousands of citizens becoming aware of this deception regarding the destruction of
these three high-rises on 9/11 – I urge you to spend ONE HOUR of your undivided attention to
review the stunning evidence that answers these crucial questions.

Joel Hirschorn, Ph.D., Senior Staff Member of the Congressional Office of Technology
Assessment, and AE911Truth.org petition signer, states "First, let the technical truths emerge.
Then, if necessary, cope with the inevitable political and conspiracy issues."

We have the technical expertise to support your own research into the collapses of the 3 World
Trade Center high-rise "collapses" on 9/11, and we offer ourselves in service to you.

Respectfully,

Mr. Richard Gage, AIA

cc: Members of the Board, AE911Truth.org, Inc.

References:

1. http://www.ae911truth.org/.
2. http://www.ae911truth.net/ppt_web/slideshow.php.
3. http://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7.php.
4. http://www.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php.
5. http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_World....
6. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/concrete.html.
7. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/mushrooming.html.
8. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/expulsion.html.
9. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/steel.html.
10. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/squibs.html.
11. http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Journal_5_PTransferRoss.pdf.
12. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/symmetry.html.
13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_jiCyMkrRM.
14. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_....
15. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JLobdillThermiteChemist....
16. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm.
17. http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf.
18. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200611/911-Acceleration-Study-....
19. http://www.911blogger.com/node/13263
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds down
with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record, now
that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened up,
they will be able to point to their participation in that process and
thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to try
to damage their careers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

Day Brown wrote:
Quote:
This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds down
with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record,

Yeah......when you get to over 1/2 of 1 percent of the licensed
professionals......let us know......until then, you have managed to
collect the few kooks that exist in every profession

Quote:
now
that their careers will be less threatened.

when "professionals" show such gross incompetence in signing on to
troofer beliefs, their careers should be threatened.

Quote:
And if 911 is opened up,
they will be able to point to their participation in that process and
thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to try
to damage their careers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

In article <48726cc2$0$20708$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...
Quote:
This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds down
with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record, now
that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened up,
they will be able to point to their participation in that process and
thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to try
to damage their careers.



BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! Your fellow kookers and you will always be nothing
more than laughing stocks..

--
BDK

kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
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Vandar
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

Day Brown wrote:

Quote:
BDK wrote:

In article <48726cc2$0$20708$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...

This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds
down with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record,
now that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened
up, they will be able to point to their participation in that process
and thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group
think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to
try to damage their careers.


BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! Your fellow kookers and you will always be nothing
more than laughing stocks..

Too bad you guys have not read the studies on group think.
Not that I mind. The delusions of the masses are, as the Chinese said, a
danger, but also an opportunity. Those professionals who have signed on
to the 911 revisitation will be getting offers from increasing numbers
of foreign entrepreneurs who were not, as you were, suckered by the
American media and the Neocons.

Yeah... let us know how that works out for 'em.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

BDK wrote:
Quote:
In article <48726cc2$0$20708$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...
This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds down
with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record, now
that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened up,
they will be able to point to their participation in that process and
thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to try
to damage their careers.

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! Your fellow kookers and you will always be nothing
more than laughing stocks..
Too bad you guys have not read the studies on group think.

Not that I mind. The delusions of the masses are, as the Chinese said, a
danger, but also an opportunity. Those professionals who have signed on
to the 911 revisitation will be getting offers from increasing numbers
of foreign entrepreneurs who were not, as you were, suckered by the
American media and the Neocons.

I watched the media lie about where Goldwater was coming from, and were
I to explain that here, you'd understand because its what you want to
see. Yet somehow, you think the media has stopped lying when it pandered
to your instincts.

I'd tell you to read Nietzsche, but dont think you have the attention
span needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

Day Brown wrote:
Quote:
BDK wrote:
In article <48726cc2$0$20708$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...
This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds
down with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record,
now that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened
up, they will be able to point to their participation in that process
and thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group
think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to
try to damage their careers.

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! Your fellow kookers and you will always be nothing
more than laughing stocks..
Too bad you guys have not read the studies on group think.
Not that I mind. The delusions of the masses are, as the Chinese said, a
danger, but also an opportunity. Those professionals who have signed on
to the 911 revisitation will be getting offers from increasing numbers
of foreign entrepreneurs who were not, as you were, suckered by the
American media and the Neocons.

Entrepreneurs who want to sell move dvds and book to ignorant troofers.

Quote:

I watched the media lie about where Goldwater was coming from, and were
I to explain that here, you'd understand because its what you want to
see. Yet somehow, you think the media has stopped lying when it pandered
to your instincts.

I'd tell you to read Nietzsche, but dont think you have the attention
span needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

In article <4873ccb0$0$15585$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...
Quote:
BDK wrote:
In article <48726cc2$0$20708$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...
This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds down
with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record, now
that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened up,
they will be able to point to their participation in that process and
thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to try
to damage their careers.

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! Your fellow kookers and you will always be nothing
more than laughing stocks..
Too bad you guys have not read the studies on group think.
Not that I mind. The delusions of the masses are, as the Chinese said, a
danger, but also an opportunity. Those professionals who have signed on
to the 911 revisitation will be getting offers from increasing numbers
of foreign entrepreneurs who were not, as you were, suckered by the
American media and the Neocons.


BWHAHAHAHAA! I guess you have to keep telling yourself that, or you'll
begin to doubt your faith, and you can't have that, can you? You can't
accept the fact that your beliefs put you on the very fringes of
society.

Quote:

I watched the media lie about where Goldwater was coming from, and were
I to explain that here, you'd understand because its what you want to
see. Yet somehow, you think the media has stopped lying when it pandered
to your instincts.

Wow, you're a trip.

Quote:

I'd tell you to read Nietzsche, but dont think you have the attention
span needed.

You should read this:

http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/list_alpha.php

Quote:


--
BDK

kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

In article <4873ccb0$0$15585$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
Day Brown <daybrown@daybrown.org> wrote:
Quote:
BDK wrote:
In article <48726cc2$0$20708$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
daybrown@daybrown.org says...
This is interesting VTR. As the ability to keep a lid on 911 winds down
with the replacement of Bush, professionals are going on record, now
that their careers will be less threatened. And if 911 is opened up,
they will be able to point to their participation in that process and
thereby demonstrate their competence in the face of media group think.

If 911 is not opened up, the next administration wont care enuf to try
to damage their careers.

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! Your fellow kookers and you will always be nothing
more than laughing stocks..
Too bad you guys have not read the studies on group think.




Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.



--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

On Jul 12, 10:35 pm, Day Brown <daybr...@daybrown.org> wrote:
Quote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.

Inasmuch as you havent read or understood the studies on Group Think, or
seen the power of delusion demonstrated in them, how the fuck would you
know?

"Group think" describes the kookers, who have been mass-deluded by
fake "experts" into accepting things that are physically impossible.

Whining "Group think" does not change the laws of physics. That the
sun rises in the east is not false just because "group think" says so.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

Al Dykes wrote:
Quote:
Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.
Inasmuch as you havent read or understood the studies on Group Think, or

seen the power of delusion demonstrated in them, how the fuck would you
know?

If you'd also read Orwell's "1984", you'd realize he saw it coming. Or
perhaps your mind is such that allegorical meaning escapes you? I have
seen how minds that can only deal with literal claims of truth challenge
to make the rest of us think more deeply about what we think, and for
that, I am grateful. But it must be an uncomfortable condition.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

In article <487984ec$0$2925$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
Day Brown <daybrown@daybrown.org> wrote:
Quote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.
Inasmuch as you havent read or understood the studies on Group Think, or
seen the power of delusion demonstrated in them, how the fuck would you
know?

If you'd also read Orwell's "1984", you'd realize he saw it coming. Or
perhaps your mind is such that allegorical meaning escapes you? I have
seen how minds that can only deal with literal claims of truth challenge
to make the rest of us think more deeply about what we think, and for
that, I am grateful. But it must be an uncomfortable condition.



Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.



--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
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Vandar
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

Day Brown wrote:

Quote:
Al Dykes wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.

Inasmuch as you havent read or understood the studies on Group Think, or
seen the power of delusion demonstrated in them, how the fuck would you
know?

You just described an aspect of the "truth" movement.

Quote:
If you'd also read Orwell's "1984", you'd realize he saw it coming.

If you had read "1984", you'd realize it's fiction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

Vandar wrote:
Quote:
Day Brown wrote:

Al Dykes wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.

Inasmuch as you havent read or understood the studies on Group Think, or
seen the power of delusion demonstrated in them, how the fuck would you
know?

You just described an aspect of the "truth" movement.

If you'd also read Orwell's "1984", you'd realize he saw it coming.

If you had read "1984", you'd realize it's fiction.

Shakespeare is fiction to. You either get it, or you dont. You dont. I

frankly dont mind. I'm the one with the psych degree and experience in
clinical settings Vandar. I know neurosis when I see it. Its really
quite common, approaching a majority of the population and posters. And
yes, some of the neurotics are troofers.

But it is far more telling of any random sample of the 911 postings that
it is the defenders of the official report who are driven to ad hominum
first. Not that anything I have to say to you and Al is persuasive.

But here again, Dr. Freud is clear, neurosis is intractable, and when
you challenge the delusions of a neurotic, he gets angry, not educated.
So, shall we look back in the postings and see how often you guys have
called other posters names, and how often I have? or how I've limited my
comments to the facts we have at hand?

Where is the NIST report on why WTC 7 collapsed? Gordon Ross shows us a
photo of the twin towers taken from across the river, and you can see
the core columns still standing above the cloud of dust after the floors
'pancaked'. I dont claim to know what happened. I dont actually have a
theory. I am awaiting a credible explanation, and have not seen any of
you present one.

No, all this will simmer on the back burner until, as Dr. Freud says,
there is some traumatic event to wake up a neurotic. The most likely I
see now is the economic stress from high oil prices. when the dude gets
kicked off the couch cause they foreclosed on his house, he aint
watching TV any more and has time to think instead of being told what to
think. And when he goes into bankruptcy, he suddenly sees lotsa other
things in the system dont add up either.

You havent had time to read Machiavelli either, or you'd see how there's
a good chance some populist demagogue'll arise from obscurity promising
the distressed middle class justice by seizing the assets of the rich to
balance the books again. 911 will provide him the excuse, the means to
say they have all been lying all this while. If gas prices and heating
bills are high enuf, and incomes are low enuf, sheeple will buy into it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Letter to Congress Reply with quote

In article <487a6251$0$15589$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
Day Brown <daybrown@daybrown.org> wrote:
Quote:
Vandar wrote:
Day Brown wrote:

Al Dykes wrote:

Which has nothing to do with the engineering studies of the collapse
of the WTC towers. These studies may differ on details but all agree
that there is nothing that was caused by anything but the impact of
two jets.

Inasmuch as you havent read or understood the studies on Group Think, or
seen the power of delusion demonstrated in them, how the fuck would you
know?

You just described an aspect of the "truth" movement.

If you'd also read Orwell's "1984", you'd realize he saw it coming.

If you had read "1984", you'd realize it's fiction.

Shakespeare is fiction to. You either get it, or you dont. You dont. I




What is the point of this rant on literature? Everyone with expertise
in relevant fields; aviation crash analysis, structural engineering,
DNA, demolition, radar data analysis and many many, more topics , all
agree that 4 aircraft caused all the damage on 9/11.

People that claim otherwise refuse to speak in public with people with
relevant expertise and make thief case for man-made demolition or
whatever.






Quote:
frankly dont mind. I'm the one with the psych degree and experience in
clinical settings Vandar. I know neurosis when I see it. Its really
quite common, approaching a majority of the population and posters. And
yes, some of the neurotics are troofers.

But it is far more telling of any random sample of the 911 postings that
it is the defenders of the official report who are driven to ad hominum
first. Not that anything I have to say to you and Al is persuasive.

But here again, Dr. Freud is clear, neurosis is intractable, and when
you challenge the delusions of a neurotic, he gets angry, not educated.
So, shall we look back in the postings and see how often you guys have
called other posters names, and how often I have? or how I've limited my
comments to the facts we have at hand?

Where is the NIST report on why WTC 7 collapsed? Gordon Ross shows us a
photo of the twin towers taken from across the river, and you can see
the core columns still standing above the cloud of dust after the floors
'pancaked'. I dont claim to know what happened. I dont actually have a
theory. I am awaiting a credible explanation, and have not seen any of
you present one.

No, all this will simmer on the back burner until, as Dr. Freud says,
there is some traumatic event to wake up a neurotic. The most likely I
see now is the economic stress from high oil prices. when the dude gets
kicked off the couch cause they foreclosed on his house, he aint
watching TV any more and has time to think instead of being told what to
think. And when he goes into bankruptcy, he suddenly sees lotsa other
things in the system dont add up either.

You havent had time to read Machiavelli either, or you'd see how there's
a good chance some populist demagogue'll arise from obscurity promising
the distressed middle class justice by seizing the assets of the rich to
balance the books again. 911 will provide him the excuse, the means to
say they have all been lying all this while. If gas prices and heating
bills are high enuf, and incomes are low enuf, sheeple will buy into it.


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