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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and
do build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion, get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent
them fleeing the country, and are not suject to execution for saying
they believe that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic
revolution, most of them for their connections to Israel.
13 in 30 years.... WOW!
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13 out of a population of 20,000.
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And all of them for being spies and traitors, punishable by death in most
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Their offense was dealing with Israel.
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For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was
hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently
for assisting Jews to emigrate."
In July 2007 Iran's Jewish community rejected financial emigration
incentives to leave Iran. Offers ranging from 5,000-30,000 British pounds,
financed by a wealthy expatriate Jew with the support of the Israeli
government, were turned down by Iran's Jewish leaders [23] [24]. However,
in late 2007 at least forty Iranian Jews accepted financial incentives
offered by a Zionist charities for immigrating to Israeli [25].
As of 2007 Iran's Jewish population is the largest of any country in the
Middle East besides Israel.
Sounds like hell... the Zionists can't even pay them to leave. ROFL!
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So you were wrong about Jews being executed in Iran?
You said that if you were wrong about this, you would admit it.
Are you going to? |
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were
offered 60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they
responded: "We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was
born. This is our country and we have no intention of
leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires
this payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They
are being held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want.
In fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in
Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every
150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to
elect one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote;
they are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has
exactly the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every
single Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of
the Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points,
Jews in Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to
vote in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister
and one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the history
of the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another
matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset.
What they can't do is actually be a part of the governing coalitions
that actually wield power in the zionist entity. This one Arab
minister currently sitting is the only exception to this in the
entire history of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the population
of the place, but for practical purposes are given no say in how it
is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare
it to the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain the
influence of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up
has a muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence on
the government.
And the influence of Iranian Jews in how Iran is governed is ...?
1% just like it should be in a democratic country.
How much representation is the 55% of Muslims that live in Israel and
the West Bank currently getting?
Well, as far as I am aware the entire West Bank Government is Muslim, so
it would appear that Muslims are over represented in the governments of
Israel and the West Bank.
So the West Bank government should have complete authority of the West
Bank?
Glad you agree.
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Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were
discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes
in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and
do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and
Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them
fleeing
the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they
believe
that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic
revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel. For example, in May 1998,
Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was hanged
"Ruhollah"???? LOL
Doesn't sound much like a jew name to me! How about "Hezbollah"?
Eli
So I guess you were wrong?
Or are you going to fall back on your extensive knowledge of Persian
Jewish names to prove that Wikipedia is wrong?
So a total of 13 jews have ever been executed in Iran.
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were
offered 60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they
responded: "We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was
born. This is our country and we have no intention of
leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires
this payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They
are being held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want.
In fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in
Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for
every 150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed
to elect one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote;
they are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has
exactly the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every
single Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of
the Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points,
Jews in Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to
vote in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister
and one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the
history of the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another
matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset.
What they can't do is actually be a part of the governing
coalitions that actually wield power in the zionist entity. This
one Arab minister currently sitting is the only exception to this
in the entire history of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the
population of the place, but for practical purposes are given no
say in how it is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare
it to the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain the
influence of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up
has a muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence on
the government.
And the influence of Iranian Jews in how Iran is governed is ...?
1% just like it should be in a democratic country.
How much representation is the 55% of Muslims that live in Israel and
the West Bank currently getting?
Well, as far as I am aware the entire West Bank Government is Muslim, so
it would appear that Muslims are over represented in the governments of
Israel and the West Bank.
So the West Bank government should have complete authority of the West
Bank?
Glad you agree.
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
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Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank should
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were
offered 60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they
responded: "We have been in Persia since before Mohammed
was born. This is our country and we have no intention of
leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires
this payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They
are being held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they
want. In fact many of them do, since most of them have
relatives in Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for
every 150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed
to elect one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote;
they are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has
exactly the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every
single Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of
the Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points,
Jews in Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in
Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to
vote in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister
and one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the
history of the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another
matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset.
What they can't do is actually be a part of the governing
coalitions that actually wield power in the zionist entity. This
one Arab minister currently sitting is the only exception to this
in the entire history of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the
population of the place, but for practical purposes are given no
say in how it is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the
House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare
it to the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain
the influence of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up
has a muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence
on the government.
And the influence of Iranian Jews in how Iran is governed is ...?
1% just like it should be in a democratic country.
How much representation is the 55% of Muslims that live in Israel and
the West Bank currently getting?
Well, as far as I am aware the entire West Bank Government is Muslim,
so it would appear that Muslims are over represented in the governments
of Israel and the West Bank.
So the West Bank government should have complete authority of the West
Bank?
Glad you agree.
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were offered
60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they responded:
"We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was born. This is
our country and we have no intention of leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires this
payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They are being
held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want. In
fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every
150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to elect
one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote; they
are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has exactly
the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every single
Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of the
Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points, Jews in
Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to vote
in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister and
one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the history of
the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset. What
they can't do is actually be a part of the governing coalitions that
actually wield power in the zionist entity. This one Arab minister
currently sitting is the only exception to this in the entire history
of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the population of the place, but
for practical purposes are given no say in how it is governed.
So you basically, since the Arabs don't seem to actively participate,
and do not meet a RATIO that YOU define, you conclude that they have no
say in how they are governed
Do you even see the flaw in that kind of thinking ?
Who said that they "don't seem to actively participate"?
I take then that you see nothing unusual that in a supposed democracy,
20% of a population has only had *one* member of a governing coalition in
*sixty* *years*? I'd call that pretty damned close to having no say in
how they were governed, yeah.
By that kind of "logic", (and I'm generous using that word), you could
make the same argument for representation of ANY minority group in ANY
country
Leftist "logic" at it's best
Except fuckwit, the West Bank which the Zionazi's refuse to give up contains
over 2 Million Palestinians which if the Zionazi's actually let these people
vote combined with the population inside of Israel would actually make them
a majority.
Forgot that little chestnut didn't you??
Get off the land or give them a vote you fucking ZIONAZI'S!- Hide quoted text -
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Gaza is the part of Egypt that sadat refused to take back. they should
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
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Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Idiot. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
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Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
Yes, but there is no way either government would surrender their power |
for the sake of a long term settlement. Then again, who would have
thought that the protagonists in the 400 year conflict in Ireland
would reach and honour the Belfast Agreement.
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This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Apart from the above, why would the Palestinians object to Gaza and |
the West Bank becoming part of Israel? There are about 5.5 million
Jews in Israel. The sum of West Bank, Gaza and Israeli Palestinians is
around 5 million. That would give them enough political clout to end
Israel as a Jewish state which is why they were "encouraged to leave"
in the first place. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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"Gordon Levi" <gordon@address.invalid> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid
question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do
you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
Yes, but there is no way either government would surrender their power
for the sake of a long term settlement. Then again, who would have
thought that the protagonists in the 400 year conflict in Ireland
would reach and honour the Belfast Agreement.
This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Apart from the above, why would the Palestinians object to Gaza and
the West Bank becoming part of Israel? There are about 5.5 million
Jews in Israel. The sum of West Bank, Gaza and Israeli Palestinians is
around 5 million. That would give them enough political clout to end
Israel as a Jewish state which is why they were "encouraged to leave"
in the first place.
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Interesting that you forget to mention that the so-called palestinians were
encouraged to leave by the Arabs, with the expectation that the Jews would
be exterminated as soon as the Arab countries attacked Israel after it's
creation
The Arabs were encouraged to leave so that they wouldn't be taken for Jews
massacred by mistake |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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SaPeIsMa wrote:
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"Gordon Levi" <gordon@address.invalid> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid
question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly.
Do you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
Yes, but there is no way either government would surrender their power
for the sake of a long term settlement. Then again, who would have
thought that the protagonists in the 400 year conflict in Ireland
would reach and honour the Belfast Agreement.
This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Apart from the above, why would the Palestinians object to Gaza and
the West Bank becoming part of Israel? There are about 5.5 million
Jews in Israel. The sum of West Bank, Gaza and Israeli Palestinians is
around 5 million. That would give them enough political clout to end
Israel as a Jewish state which is why they were "encouraged to leave"
in the first place.
Interesting that you forget to mention that the so-called palestinians
were encouraged to leave by the Arabs, with the expectation that the
Jews would be exterminated as soon as the Arab countries attacked Israel
after it's creation
The Arabs were encouraged to leave so that they wouldn't be taken for
Jews massacred by mistake
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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"Gordon Levi" <gordon@address.invalid> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid
question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do
you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
Yes, but there is no way either government would surrender their power
for the sake of a long term settlement. Then again, who would have
thought that the protagonists in the 400 year conflict in Ireland
would reach and honour the Belfast Agreement.
This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Apart from the above, why would the Palestinians object to Gaza and
the West Bank becoming part of Israel?
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Gee, I don't know. The government of Gaza is committed to the destruction of
Israel. Overwhelmingly the Palestinian people appear to want their own
independent state. Nobody that I know of - on either side - appears to want
Gaza and the West Bank annexed by Israel.
For whatever reasons, the Palestinians do not want Gaza and the West Bank to
become part of Israel, which would seem to make the suggestion that Israel
incorporates the rest of "Palestine" into its territory somewhat
impractical.
There are about 5.5 million
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Jews in Israel. The sum of West Bank, Gaza and Israeli Palestinians is
around 5 million. That would give them enough political clout to end
Israel as a Jewish state which is why they were "encouraged to leave"
in the first place. |
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gordon Levi" <gordon@address.invalid> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid
question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do
you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
Yes, but there is no way either government would surrender their power
for the sake of a long term settlement. Then again, who would have
thought that the protagonists in the 400 year conflict in Ireland
would reach and honour the Belfast Agreement.
This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Apart from the above, why would the Palestinians object to Gaza and
the West Bank becoming part of Israel? There are about 5.5 million
Jews in Israel. The sum of West Bank, Gaza and Israeli Palestinians is
around 5 million. That would give them enough political clout to end
Israel as a Jewish state which is why they were "encouraged to leave"
in the first place.
Interesting that you forget to mention that the so-called palestinians
were encouraged to leave by the Arabs,
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You lying turd. That is a lie created by the hebes.
The majority of the Arabs buggered off after the massacre at Deir Yassin. |
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Gordon Levi" <gordon@address.invalid> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid
question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do
you
think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
Yes, but there is no way either government would surrender their power
for the sake of a long term settlement. Then again, who would have
thought that the protagonists in the 400 year conflict in Ireland
would reach and honour the Belfast Agreement.
This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
Apart from the above, why would the Palestinians object to Gaza and
the West Bank becoming part of Israel?
Gee, I don't know. The government of Gaza is committed to the destruction
of Israel.
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No they are not. |
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were offered
60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they responded:
"We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was born. This
is
our country and we have no intention of leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires this
payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They are
being
held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want.
In
fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in
Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every
150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to elect
one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote; they
are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has exactly
the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every single
Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of the
Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points, Jews in
Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to vote
in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
Except fuckwit, the West Bank which the Zionazi's refuse to give up
contains
over 2 Million Palestinians which if the Zionazi's actually let these
people
vote combined with the population inside of Israel would actually make
them
a majority.
Forgot that little chestnut didn't you??
Get off the land or give them a vote you fucking ZIONAZI'S!- Hide quoted
text -
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Gaza is the part of Egypt that sadat refused to take back. they should
vote in Egyptian elections..
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Egypt doesn't pretend to run Gaza.
The Zionazi's in Israel however are still pretending they own and run the
West Bank.
GIVE THEM A VOTE OR GET THE FUCK OUT! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Huh? I said nothing of the sort. I simply answered your stupid question.
Because the answer disproved your argument, you now want to change the
subject.
Having a bet each way eh....
Sucha fuckwit.
If Israels running the West Bank, the people living in the West Bank
should get a vote in those elections too correct?
Well, if you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel, certainly. Do
you think the West Bank should become politically part of Israel?
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The West Bank IS run by Israel, so why the fuck would you bother to give
"what if" scenario's.
Give em a vote or get the fuck off their land... thats what I think, or
don't you think 2 Million people should be represented because they aren't
Jew?
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This would of course be a major change; I don't think that either the
Palestinians or Israelis are too keen on the idea, so it would appear
difficult to implement ...
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WAAAAA.
In a corner with no way out, Pete flip flops all over the place.
Do you think 2 Million people should be represented by the government that
tries to control them, Yes/No? If you don't think 2 Million People should
get a say in the government controlling their area, that government should
completely remove itself from any control over said area, Yes/No?
You want an each way bet again, GIVE THEM A VOTE OR GET THE FUCK OFF THE
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