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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking about
that now are we?
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The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
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On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing the
country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe that
Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
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No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
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Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were offered 60
thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they responded: "We
have been in Persia since before Mohammed was born. This is our
country and we have no intention of leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires this
payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They are being
held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want. In
fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every 150
thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to elect one
member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote; they
are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has exactly the
same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every single Australian
enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran, parliament
is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of the
Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points, Jews in
Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to vote in
the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister and
one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the history of
the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset. What
they can't do is actually be a part of the governing coalitions that
actually wield power in the zionist entity. This one Arab minister
currently sitting is the only exception to this in the entire history of
this place. Arabs represent 20% of the population of the place, but for
practical purposes are given no say in how it is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare it to
the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain the influence
of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up has a
muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence on the
government.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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Mr. 7% wrote:
"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking about
that now are we?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing the
country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe that
Iran has a right to exist.
He thinks that people in Iran are executed "for saying they believe that
Iran has a right to exist"??? What an odd viewpoint.
Yep just like in Iran.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
Uhhh. Peter doesn't *do* evidence.
He's very good at demanding it of others, but somewhat more casual when
confronted with the same request regarding his own outlandish claims.
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And if I do post evidence that Jews are exectuted in Iran, will you admit
you are wrong?
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"Mr. 7%" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking about
that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing the
country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe that
Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
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If it's from a reputable source of course.
I'm not about to do a Pete Webb somersault with a triple twist like you did
when I posted evidence showing Israel controls all of Palestines seaports,
borders and airspace and are currently blocking all imports into Gaza. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were offered
60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they responded:
"We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was born. This is
our country and we have no intention of leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires this
payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They are being
held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want. In
fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every
150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to elect
one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote; they
are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has exactly
the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every single
Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of the
Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points, Jews in
Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to vote
in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister and
one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the history of
the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset. What
they can't do is actually be a part of the governing coalitions that
actually wield power in the zionist entity. This one Arab minister
currently sitting is the only exception to this in the entire history
of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the population of the place, but
for practical purposes are given no say in how it is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare it
to the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain the
influence of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up has
a muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence on the
government.
And the influence of Iranian Jews in how Iran is governed is ...?
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1% just like it should be in a democratic country.
How much representation is the 55% of Muslims that live in Israel and the
West Bank currently getting? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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Peter Webb wrote:
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"Gary Renzetti" <lizgary@connection.com> wrote in message
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Mr. 7% wrote:
"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were
discussing, would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less
democratic rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes
in Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and
do build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion, get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent
them fleeing the country, and are not suject to execution for saying
they believe that Iran has a right to exist.
He thinks that people in Iran are executed "for saying they believe
that Iran has a right to exist"??? What an odd viewpoint.
Yep just like in Iran.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
Uhhh. Peter doesn't *do* evidence.
He's very good at demanding it of others, but somewhat more casual
when confronted with the same request regarding his own outlandish
claims.
And if I do post evidence that Jews are exectuted in Iran, will you
admit you are wrong?
No. But if you post evidence that the zionists only block weapons |
shipments to Gaza, I will.
Still waiting for that one...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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"Mr. 7%" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Mr. 7%" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing
the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe
that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
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Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel. For example, in May 1998,
Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was hanged in prison without a
public charge or legal proceeding, apparently for assisting Jews to
emigrate."
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I'm not about to do a Pete Webb somersault with a triple twist like you
did when I posted evidence showing Israel controls all of Palestines
seaports, borders and airspace and are currently blocking all imports into
Gaza.
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Ummm ... you didn't actually show where Israel is blocking all imports into
Gaza; you only demonstrated that Israel can and does close its own border
with Gaza. For example, you have conspicuously failed to discuss the border
between Gaza and Egypt. |
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were offered
60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they responded:
"We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was born. This is
our country and we have no intention of leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires this
payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They are
being held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want. In
fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in
Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every
150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to elect
one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote; they
are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has exactly
the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every single
Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of the
Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points, Jews in
Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to vote
in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister and
one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the history
of the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset. What
they can't do is actually be a part of the governing coalitions that
actually wield power in the zionist entity. This one Arab minister
currently sitting is the only exception to this in the entire history
of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the population of the place, but
for practical purposes are given no say in how it is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare it
to the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain the
influence of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up has
a muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence on the
government.
And the influence of Iranian Jews in how Iran is governed is ...?
1% just like it should be in a democratic country.
How much representation is the 55% of Muslims that live in Israel and the
West Bank currently getting?
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Well, as far as I am aware the entire West Bank Government is Muslim, so it
would appear that Muslims are over represented in the governments of Israel
and the West Bank.
HTH
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:13:52 +1000, "Mr. 7%" <noreply@noreply.com
wrote:
"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic rights
than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking about
that now are we?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing the
country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe that Iran
has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
Sadly, too few are.
Eli
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<BG> OTOH I like to watch how you are being executed now on the Usenet after
your six years of incessant, insane, inane trolling! There is simply no way
for you to avoid it!
EVERY DAY now! As long as you are around, my poor bleeding punching bag!
LMAO!
--
Rev. Richard Skull about Eli Grabmen: Any sex act involving YOU is
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:22:29 +1000, "Peter Webb"
<webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
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"Mr. 7%" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing
the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe
that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel. For example, in May 1998,
Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was hanged
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"Ruhollah"???? LOL
Doesn't sound much like a jew name to me! How about "Hezbollah"?
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and
do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing
the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe
that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel. For example, in May 1998,
Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was hanged
"Ruhollah"???? LOL
Doesn't sound much like a jew name to me! How about "Hezbollah"?
Eli
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So I guess you were wrong?
Or are you going to fall back on your extensive knowledge of Persian Jewish
names to prove that Wikipedia is wrong? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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"Mr. 7%" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion, get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them
fleeing the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they
believe that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel.
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13 in 30 years.... WOW!
And all of them for being spies and traitors, punishable by death in most
countries.
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For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was
hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently
for assisting Jews to emigrate."
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In July 2007 Iran's Jewish community rejected financial emigration
incentives to leave Iran. Offers ranging from 5,000-30,000 British pounds,
financed by a wealthy expatriate Jew with the support of the Israeli
government, were turned down by Iran's Jewish leaders [23] [24]. However, in
late 2007 at least forty Iranian Jews accepted financial incentives offered
by a Zionist charities for immigrating to Israeli [25].
As of 2007 Iran's Jewish population is the largest of any country in the
Middle East besides Israel.
Sounds like hell... the Zionists can't even pay them to leave. ROFL!
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I'm not about to do a Pete Webb somersault with a triple twist like you
did when I posted evidence showing Israel controls all of Palestines
seaports, borders and airspace and are currently blocking all imports
into Gaza.
Ummm ... you didn't actually show where Israel is blocking all imports
into Gaza; you only demonstrated that Israel can and does close its own
border with Gaza. For example, you have conspicuously failed to discuss
the border between Gaza and Egypt.
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Awesome, show us where the Yids don't try and control Palestines airspace
and sea ports.
Waiting eagerly for your evidence. |
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Peter Webb wrote:
Twenty five thousand Jews live in Iran. When they were offered
60 thousand dollars per family to go to Israel they responded:
"We have been in Persia since before Mohammed was born. This
is our country and we have no intention of leaving."
Thew reason that $60,000 is required is that Iran requires this
payment from Jews (but nobody else) to leave Iran. They are
being held hostage.
A lie. Jews from Iran can travel to Israel any time they want.
In fact many of them do, since most of them have relatives in
Israel.
Not as family groups, in case they abscond without paying.
Even though in Iran there is a member of parliament for every
150 thousand people, Jews who number less are allowed to elect
one member of parliament among themselves.
Well, no. There member of Parliament cannot actually vote; they
are only allowed to watch. This single Jew in Iran has exactly
the same the same Parliamentary priveleges as every single
Australian enjoys - to watch Parliament.
Cite? In any case, under a regimen like the one in Iran,
parliament is not where things are decided.
Ohh. So how many Jews are their in the body that does make the
decision?
As I said below, in the original post, I am not a big fan of the
Iranian system. My point is that, regarding most points, Jews in
Iran are way, way better, than Palestinians in Israel.
How? Name one way.
Muslims can and do get the vote in Israel
No they do not. Most Arabs in Jerusalem were not permitted to vote
in the last elections.
You are a stupid person and a liar.
and have many seats in the Knesset.
No. Not many. There only are 12 right now and only one minister
and one speaker.
And that *one* minister is the *only* Arab minister in the history
of the Knesset.
So the posit that Arabs in Israel can run for office is true
That they choose not to or fail to successfully run is another
matter
Yes, they can run for and if elected, hold office in the Knesset.
What they can't do is actually be a part of the governing coalitions
that actually wield power in the zionist entity. This one Arab
minister currently sitting is the only exception to this in the
entire history of this place. Arabs represent 20% of the population
of the place, but for practical purposes are given no say in how it
is governed.
Apart from 12 MPs, a cabinet Minister, and the speaker of the House.
As the situation of the Muslims in Israel was introduced to compare it
to the situation of Jews in Iran, perhaps you can now explain the
influence of Jews on how Iran is governed?
Sure, Iran has a Jewish Population of about 1% so they have little
influence.
Israel if you include the West Bank which the Yids refuse to give up
has a muslim population of 55%... yet are allowed little influence on
the government.
And the influence of Iranian Jews in how Iran is governed is ...?
1% just like it should be in a democratic country.
How much representation is the 55% of Muslims that live in Israel and the
West Bank currently getting?
Well, as far as I am aware the entire West Bank Government is Muslim, so
it would appear that Muslims are over represented in the governments of
Israel and the West Bank.
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So the West Bank government should have complete authority of the West Bank?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Israel allows Gaza fuel supplies |
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were
discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes
in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and
do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing
the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe
that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic
revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel. For example, in May 1998,
Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was hanged
"Ruhollah"???? LOL
Doesn't sound much like a jew name to me! How about "Hezbollah"?
Eli
So I guess you were wrong?
Or are you going to fall back on your extensive knowledge of Persian
Jewish names to prove that Wikipedia is wrong?
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So a total of 13 jews have ever been executed in Iran.
How many Muslims has Israel executed? Waiting eagerly for your reply. |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:53:54 +1000, "Peter Webb"
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"Eli Grubman" <eli.grubman@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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And compared to the jews in Iran, which is what we were discussing,
would you say that Muslims in Israel have more or less democratic
rights than the jews of Iran ?
They most certainly do not.
Why?
There are no checkpoints in Iran and Jews are able to build homes in
Iran.
There are no checkpoints inside Gaza, and Muslims obviously can and
do
build houses.
But there are in the West Bank fuckwit.
There are no checkpoints in Antartica either, but we aren't talking
about that now are we?
The subject line says "Gaza".
Why are you talking about checkpoints in the West Bank and Antarctica?
On the other hand, Muslims in Israel can openly worship their
religion,
get a full vote, are not subject to controls to prevent them fleeing
the country, and are not suject to execution for saying they believe
that Iran has a right to exist.
Yep just like in Iran.
No, defense of the right of Israel to exist is capital offense.
Please post evidence that Jews are executed in Iran thanks.
And if I do, you will admit you are wrong?
If it's from a reputable source of course.
Wikipedia OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution,
most of them for their connections to Israel. For example, in May 1998,
Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kadkhodah-Zadeh was hanged
"Ruhollah"???? LOL
Doesn't sound much like a jew name to me! How about "Hezbollah"?
Eli
So I guess you were wrong?
Or are you going to fall back on your extensive knowledge of Persian Jewish
names to prove that Wikipedia is wrong?
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The "ollah" part of the name comes from "Allah", shitforbrains.
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