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count zero · Guest

The Archbishop of Canterbury has today said that the adoption of
Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable” and that it would help
maintain social cohesion.

Rowan Williams told BBC Radio 4’s World at One that the UK has to
“face up to the fact” that some of its citizens do not relate to the
British legal system. He says that Muslims could choose to have
marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court. He
says Muslims should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives
of cultural loyalty or state loyalty”.

Dr Williams said there was a place for finding a “constructive
accommodation” in areas such as marriage - allowing Muslim women to
avoid western divorce proceedings. Other religions enjoyed such
tolerance of their own laws, he pointed out, but stressed that it
could never be allowed to take precedence over an individual’s rights
as a citizen. He said it would also require a change in perception of
what Sharia involved beyond the “inhumanity” of extreme punishments
and attitudes to women seen in some Islamic states.

Dr Williams said: “It seems unavoidable and, as a matter of fact,
certain conditions of Sharia are already recognised in our society and
under our law, so it is not as if we are bringing in an alien and
rival system.

“We already have in this country a number of situations in which the
internal law of religious communities is recognised by the law of the
land as justifying conscientious objections in certain circumstances.”

He added: “There is a place for finding what would be a constructive
accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law as we already do with
aspects of other kinds of religious law.

Nkosi · Guest

"count zero" <adrianbonni@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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The Archbishop of Canterbury has today said that the adoption of
Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable” and that it would help
maintain social cohesion.

Rowan Williams told BBC Radio 4’s World at One that the UK has to
“face up to the fact” that some of its citizens do not relate to the
British legal system. He says that Muslims could choose to have
marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court. He
says Muslims should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives
of cultural loyalty or state loyalty”.

Dr Williams said there was a place for finding a “constructive
accommodation” in areas such as marriage - allowing Muslim women to
avoid western divorce proceedings. Other religions enjoyed such
tolerance of their own laws, he pointed out, but stressed that it
could never be allowed to take precedence over an individual’s rights
as a citizen. He said it would also require a change in perception of
what Sharia involved beyond the “inhumanity” of extreme punishments
and attitudes to women seen in some Islamic states.

Dr Williams said: “It seems unavoidable and, as a matter of fact,
certain conditions of Sharia are already recognised in our society and
under our law, so it is not as if we are bringing in an alien and
rival system.

“We already have in this country a number of situations in which the
internal law of religious communities is recognised by the law of the
land as justifying conscientious objections in certain circumstances.”

He added: “There is a place for finding what would be a constructive
accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law as we already do with
aspects of other kinds of religious law.

THE STUPID WELSH GIT HASN'T GOT A F@CKING CLUE

Hotblack Desiato · Guest

"count zero" <adrianbonni@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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The Archbishop of Canterbury has today said that the adoption of
Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable” and that it would help
maintain social cohesion.

It doesn't seem to me that this has much to do with Muslims or Sharia law;
it seems mostly conected with the Archbishop of Canterbury trying to
irritate people. You can't get more cohesive than the idea of being free to
believe what you wish, but all being treated the same.

The man's a fool, probably best to ignore him.. unless of course, you are
also trying to irritate people..

Paul Hyett · Guest

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 at 10:27:10, Hotblack Desiato <nomail@nomail.com>
wrote in alt.politics.british :